Dunno about others but I agree that terms like that seem to indicate a serious confusion, or at least something that I am very confused about, and seems others here do too. We're more using them as a way of talking about our confusion. Just noting "there's something here we're failing to comprehend" isn't enough to help us comprehend it. It's more a case of "we're not sure what concepts to replace those terms with", at least so it is to me.