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Comment author: SilasBarta 30 September 2009 01:54:32PM 7 points [-]

I don't know if what I'm about to say is a nitpick, but I think it's relevant to the issue, so I'll say it anyway:

Definitional contradictions are impossible. For example, I can say that I will encounter a married bachelor, ... with P=0. This doesn't actually say anything about the world; I could figure out that there are no married bachelors without leaving in my room, simply by knowing that bachelor is defined as "man who is not married."

But words have histories behind them, and there is a reason why the term "bachelor" exists. The term "bachelor" carries connotations that go beyond simply "union(male,~married)". To borrow from an example from Hubert Dreyfus (and do forgive me for reading him), if I told you I was having a party and I wanted you to bring bachelors, would you consider bringing priests or gay men?

What's actually happening is that we believe "bachelor" has one meaning, while expecting people to imagine a different clump of conceptspace ("connotation") when we actually use it.

Only when you confine the issue into being a purely logcal one, with "bachelor", "man", etc. as suggestively-named LISP tokens can you identify purely logical (P = 0 or 1) truths. But at that point, you've destroyed the mutual information between those words and the outside world, including the usage of those terms in the outside world. And in that case, your statement is no longer about bachelors, but rather, about abstract logical relationships in Platonic space.