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Let me clarify: you think I'm immature, almost constantly in error, you won't explain my failures in enough detail for me to make use of the information even when I ask, you're routinely hostile to me - but it's not like you don't like me or anything. What is it, then? You hold me in the sort of half-fond contempt typically reserved for small, annoying children and animals who don't know any better, or something?
Anyone else see sparks here?
// ...sorry. :-)
This was really funny.
I'm reminded of a Seinfeld scene in which Jerry and Elaine, annoyed at each other, are in a push fight in Jerry's apartment when Kramer pops in, separates them and nonchalantly suggests, "Don't you two see you are in love with each other?". (Note that in the scene, it's obvious Jerry and Elaine are not romantically linked and that's why Kramer's comment is so funny.)
I am a bit alarmed by the 5 points your post got.
Its actually like 8 ups at 4 downs at this point. Don't know what that tells us.
...Ew.
Think Han and Leia, Harry and Sally, Veronica Mars and Logan Echolls, Indiana Jones and that annoying actress from Temple of Doom. I could go on.
I'll stop now, though :-)
I really doubt we're looking at a case of Slap Slap Kiss here, but teasing is fun.
I think I'm going to defy all expectation and say: I agree with Alicorn completely on this. (I would have responded directly to Alicorn, but she had told me to leave her alone, and considering the topic, and my position, that would be WAY too much irony.)
I think this trope seriously hinders anti-rape efforts. I'd go into more detail, but given the topic, pretty much anything can be read out of context, so it's best to leave it at that.
This is probably the wrong time to go on about how that trope sexualizes violence and encourages people to think that "no means yes" even given ever-more-stringent values of "no", isn't it?
I can't speak for everyone, but I wouldn't mind. Rant all you want; this is the Open Thread, after all.
This isn't the open thread. This is "oy, girls on lw, want to get together some time?"
So the standards here are probably lower than an Open Thread.
Whoops. :(
I happen to like girls who initiate sex with this sort of challenge. It is a straightforward alternative to the verbal or social challenges that fill the same role more frequently. In fact playing out the dynamics so directly rather than in the verbal world helps prevent any confusion as to whether verbal expressions are a façade to test character or a boundary. 'No' could always mean 'no' and never mean 'I'm not comfortable yet, pull back and continue the mating dance'.
Rape is bad/evil/other/death-spiral. But this trope doesn't encourage rape.