Jack comments on 'oy, girls on lw, want to get together some time?' - Less Wrong

31 Post author: MBlume 02 October 2009 10:50AM

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Comment author: Jack 02 October 2009 04:05:39PM 6 points [-]

Think Han and Leia, Harry and Sally, Veronica Mars and Logan Echolls, Indiana Jones and that annoying actress from Temple of Doom. I could go on.

I'll stop now, though :-)

Comment author: CronoDAS 03 October 2009 02:14:34AM 3 points [-]

I really doubt we're looking at a case of Slap Slap Kiss here, but teasing is fun.

Comment author: SilasBarta 03 October 2009 03:39:49AM 11 points [-]

I think I'm going to defy all expectation and say: I agree with Alicorn completely on this. (I would have responded directly to Alicorn, but she had told me to leave her alone, and considering the topic, and my position, that would be WAY too much irony.)

I think this trope seriously hinders anti-rape efforts. I'd go into more detail, but given the topic, pretty much anything can be read out of context, so it's best to leave it at that.

Comment author: Alicorn 03 October 2009 02:17:05AM 14 points [-]

This is probably the wrong time to go on about how that trope sexualizes violence and encourages people to think that "no means yes" even given ever-more-stringent values of "no", isn't it?

Comment author: CronoDAS 03 October 2009 05:07:40AM 3 points [-]

I can't speak for everyone, but I wouldn't mind. Rant all you want; this is the Open Thread, after all.

Comment author: Alicorn 03 October 2009 02:15:53PM 3 points [-]

This isn't the open thread. This is "oy, girls on lw, want to get together some time?"

Comment author: Emile 03 October 2009 09:28:40PM 12 points [-]

So the standards here are probably lower than an Open Thread.

Comment author: CronoDAS 03 October 2009 11:36:35PM 1 point [-]

Whoops. :(

Comment author: wedrifid 04 October 2009 08:05:51AM 5 points [-]

I happen to like girls who initiate sex with this sort of challenge. It is a straightforward alternative to the verbal or social challenges that fill the same role more frequently. In fact playing out the dynamics so directly rather than in the verbal world helps prevent any confusion as to whether verbal expressions are a façade to test character or a boundary. 'No' could always mean 'no' and never mean 'I'm not comfortable yet, pull back and continue the mating dance'.

Rape is bad/evil/other/death-spiral. But this trope doesn't encourage rape.