Nick_Tarleton comments on Let them eat cake: Interpersonal Problems vs Tasks - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Nick_Tarleton 08 October 2009 11:36:18PM *  2 points [-]

I seriously doubt there is anyone here who has committed rape or felt entitled to sex, for that reason.

I don't see where Alicorn postulated a reason for men to feel entitled to sex – did you get the clauses reversed?

Plausibly nobody here has explicitly believed themselves to be entitled to sex, but I doubt none have implicitly held something like this attitude at some point.

Comment author: SilasBarta 08 October 2009 11:39:06PM 2 points [-]

I think the implicitly-held-similar belief is what I spelled out in the post: they believe they've "done their part to adhere to the standard they were taught", but have been rendered ineffective because they were lied to, and in the absence of that lie, they would ... have had more success. So, it follows, those others deprived them of that success.

Comment author: Nick_Tarleton 08 October 2009 11:47:54PM 2 points [-]

Yes, but they may also resent women for not cooperating/rewarding them for following explicit social norms, for willfully being confusing, for cynically advocating (individually or, at least implicitly, as a unitary Matriarchy) these norms with no intent of rewarding them, and probably other similar things.

Comment author: SilasBarta 08 October 2009 11:50:32PM 4 points [-]

Okay, I agree with you on that, but that's already quite far from the "feeling entitled to sex" that you suggested before.