wedrifid comments on Let them eat cake: Interpersonal Problems vs Tasks - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 09 October 2009 12:42:13AM *  3 points [-]

But insofar as the PUA culture includes beliefs like "men are owed more sex" I don't think the reactions of Alicorn and others are that off-base.

The 'off base' part is the 'insofar as'. Objections, even valid objections can be off base if they are red herrings, objections to positions that really aren't held or being expressed in the context.

Of those analogies, it is ironic that '1)' and '3)' are actually among the first misconceptions that an analogous PUA instructor would drill out of a student. Covert contracts and supplication are terrible strategies and far more prevalent in conventional wisdom than in PUA subcultures.

Comment author: Jack 09 October 2009 01:38:58AM *  3 points [-]

The 'off base' part is the 'insofar as'. Objections, even valid objections can be off base if they are red herrings, objections to positions that really aren't held or being expressed in the context.

All this might be the case. Like I said I don't think the PUA stuff is necessarily anti-feminist. But a lot of the commenters here do a pretty good job of being targets for these objections. Put it this way, it isn't a surprise we're seeing this reaction given some of the things that have been said.

Edit: Adding that this entire discussion just looks like people seeing political signaling and then jumping on their respective bandwagons.