Comment on Let them eat cake: Interpersonal Problems vs Tasks

Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:53:30 GMT

Please note that nobody on this site has actually stated that men are owed sex from women as a group.

Well, that wouldn't be a meaningful statement. Under the usual meanings of owing, someone has got to pay up. But women as a class can't pay up, even if coerced, only individual women can. So this is the wrong way to describe the situation in any case.

This whole discussion started, I believe, with Robin Hanson's recent posts on Overcoming Bias. He presented a problem (some men want, even need more sex than they can get; and society is generally unsympathetic with them) but not a solution.

However, the notions of "owing" and suggestions of influencing or coercing women were very much present in the posts Robin linked to and in various comments there. That's not to say Robin agreed with them, of course.

Why aren't you objecting to mainstream culture

Of course we're also objecting to that part of mainstream culture. When it's discussed here, we mention those objections here. After all the original topic was how to change mainstream culture for the better, not just our corner of it here.

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