NancyLebovitz comments on Let them eat cake: Interpersonal Problems vs Tasks - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Jowibou 16 April 2010 09:25:39AM *  15 points [-]

Socialization is a social/cultural problem in a larger sense. The fact that nowadays most people learn their social skills in High School is bound to be problematic. Since we no longer have much of a ritualized, entrenched system for socializing our youth, they largely learn their social skills from other teenagers - the blind, gullible, hormonally confused and deeply irrational leading the blind etc. They go on to carry the resulting status games, irrational behaviour -- and scars -- into the rest of their lives and the whole of society. This explains much of our (barely) post adolescent culture and politics.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 16 April 2010 03:34:47PM 5 points [-]

The problem may be as much a matter of age segregation in school as it is a lack of a ritualized, formal system for socializing young people.

Comment author: Jowibou 17 April 2010 10:04:19AM *  2 points [-]

Children of widely different ages playing together are a wonderful but increasingly rare sight. I strongly agree that age segregation within schools is a big part of the problem. But in a sense it's a subset of what I'm talking about on the scale of the whole culture. I'm not advocating a return rigid to social ritual or an overly formal system - say, the Masai cattle raid or even the Scouts. But something must be found to fill the gap. Groups and subgroups of teenagers are left to make do in a system that merely tries to keep them together, under control -- and obediently consuming junk. And the rest of us end up with a social system that mirrors High School instead of schools that reflect society as a whole.