Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Anticipation vs. Faith: At What Cost Rationality? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Wei_Dai 13 October 2009 09:17:26AM *  6 points [-]

I think when I wrote my previous response I may have missed your point somewhat. I guess what you're really saying is that, if anticipation is truly irrational, then once we sufficiently understand why it's irrational, we won't value it anymore, and it won't require any particular "effort" to give it up. Is this a better summary of your position?

If so, are you really sure it's true, that the human mind has that much flexibility and meta-rationality? Why? (Why do you believe this? And why would evolution have that much apparent foresight?)

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 13 October 2009 03:30:43PM 3 points [-]

It is a better summary; and I can give no better answer than, "It's always worked that way for me before." I think the real difficulty would come for someone who was told that they had to give up anticipation, rather than seeing it for themselves in a thunderbolt of dissolving insight.

Comment author: Wei_Dai 13 October 2009 06:01:35PM 2 points [-]

My reasoning here is that evolution in general has very limited foresight, therefore there must be a limit to human rationality somewhere that is probably far short of ideal rationality. "It's always worked that way for me before" doesn't seem like very strong evidence in comparison to that argument.