PhilGoetz comments on Quantifying ethicality of human actions - Less Wrong

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Comment author: PhilGoetz 14 October 2009 04:58:24AM *  1 point [-]

That's not entirely fair. Kant said that morality was not determined by consequences; but that statement may be incoherent. Attempts to use the categorical imperative result in looking at consequences in one way or another - even if the user is unaware they are doing so, because they are referencing values evolved into them by their consequences to the user's ancestors (and selected-against non-ancestors).

Comment author: Psychohistorian 14 October 2009 05:56:41PM 4 points [-]

Again agreeing with Jack; it's true that much of Kant's argument about the CI is based on consequences. Conceptually, however, the CI and its association with objective morality do require it to be purely non-consequence-based. If it were consequence based, then if the consequences were different, it wouldn't necessarily hold, so it would not be "categorical."

I agree that, fundamentally, any intelligible concept of ethics will rest on consequences. But the idea behind the CI is that it is a priori, which is why it's such a terrible and convoluted idea.

Comment author: Jack 14 October 2009 05:45:02AM 1 point [-]

Thats a really interesting notion. However, it is more of an objection to Kant's position than it is an objection to Psychohistorian and my interpretation of Kant. It might be the case that you can never get away from the impacts but Kant didn't think that and what Kant thought was what was at issue.