SilasBarta comments on How to think like a quantum monadologist - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Mitchell_Porter 19 October 2009 12:44:20PM -1 points [-]

the language could have just as easily had a one-word verb phrase than means "experience blueness".

Are you sure about that? Do you think the meaning of "bluep" could be conveyed to young humans without having blue objects to point at and without those humans at least forming a concept of blue? I also doubt that this would make physicalism any easier subjectively. Whether it's the experience or the object of the experience which is regarded as blue, something's blue.

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Comment author: SilasBarta 19 October 2009 01:15:23PM *  2 points [-]

Are you sure about that? Do you think the meaning of "bluep" could be conveyed to young humans without having blue objects to point at and without those humans at least forming a concept of blue?

Who modded this up? Is this the standard now for what words a language could have? Whether the concept could be explained to a child? You might as well dismiss the word "oxygen" on the grounds that you can't explain the full chemical model to a child, in a way that allows you to make use of the concept.

In any case, you could explain it to a child: "When you're dreaming about blue, you're just blueping. But when you see blue for real, you're blueping and seeing something blue."

Why is it that "It's impossible to explain ..." always seems to say so much more about the speaker than the concept?