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Comment author: Yvain 27 October 2009 01:15:40AM 2 points [-]

That was me.

Of course, irony being what it is, people will now flag the Alicorn - MIT reference as nonfictional, and be referring to Alicorn's MIT example for the rest of LW history :)

Comment author: RobinZ 27 October 2009 01:31:34AM 2 points [-]

Attempting to analyze my own stupidity, I suspect my confusion came from (1) both Alicorn and Yvain being both high-karma contributors and (2) Alicorn's handle coming more readily to mind, both because (a) I interacted more with her and (b) the pronunciation of "Alicorn" being more obvious than that of "Yvain".

In other words, I have no evidence that this was anything other than an ordinary mistake.

Comment author: Alicorn 27 October 2009 01:35:48AM 1 point [-]

I've been imagining "Yvain" to be pronounced "ee-vane". I'd be interested in hearing a correction straight from the ee-vane's mouth if this is not right, though ;) I've heard people mispronounce "Alicorn" on multiple occasions.

Comment author: wedrifid 27 October 2009 02:27:49AM *  1 point [-]

I've heard people mispronounce "Alicorn" on multiple occasions.

You mean Alicorn is a real name? I had assumed a combination of Alison and Unicorn, with symbolic implications beyond my ken.

I've been imagining "Yvain" to be pronounced "ee-vane".

"Ye-vane" here, with the caveat that I was quite confident that it was way off.

Comment author: Alicorn 27 October 2009 02:34:19AM 2 points [-]

No, it's not a real name (as far as I know). It's a real word. It means a unicorn's horn, although there are some modern misuses mostly spearheaded by Piers Anthony (gag hack cough).

Comment author: wedrifid 27 October 2009 02:53:50AM 0 points [-]

Ahh. And I've been going about calling them well, unicorn horns all these years!

Comment author: RobinZ 27 October 2009 01:44:11AM 0 points [-]

I've been saying "al-eh-corn" in my mental consciousness. Also "ee-vane", which suggests my problem being less "Yvain is hard to pronounce" than "Yvain doesn't look like the English I grew up speaking".

Incidentally, I can't remember how to pronounce Eliezer. I saw him say it at the beginning of a Bloggingheads video and it was completely different from my naive reading.

Comment author: Alicorn 27 October 2009 01:49:38AM 2 points [-]

"Alicorn" is pronounced just like "unicorn", except that the "yoon" is replaced with "al" as in "Albert" or "Alabama". So the I is an "ih", not an "eh", but you can get away with an undifferentiated schwa.

Comment author: RobinZ 27 October 2009 01:56:33AM 0 points [-]

Thanks!

(I think that's how I was saying it, actually - I wasn't sure how to write the second syllable.)

Comment author: arundelo 27 October 2009 01:54:03AM 1 point [-]

ell-ee-EZZ-er (is how I hear it).