SilasBarta comments on Rationality Quotes: October 2009 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 22 October 2009 04:13:58PM 10 points [-]

I've never seen a UFO. When I went to places that were rumored to be haunted, nothing showed up. Two hours of intense staring didn't make my pencil move a single millimeter, and glaring at my classmate's head didn't reveal his thoughts to me, either. I couldn't help but get depressed at how normal the laws of physics were.

-- Kyon, The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi

Comment author: SilasBarta 22 October 2009 04:25:25PM *  2 points [-]

I've never seen a UFO.

Wow! He's been able to identify every flying object he's ever seen? Must be a boring fellow when stargazing!

I think he means he's never seen an alien spaceship...

Comment author: AllanCrossman 22 October 2009 07:10:03PM 1 point [-]

Must be a boring fellow when stargazing!

I'm not sure stars can be called "flying objects".

Comment author: SilasBarta 22 October 2009 07:29:41PM *  3 points [-]

Well, you can't quite know if a skyward light is something flying near earth until you've identified it, can you? :-)

Comment author: AllanCrossman 22 October 2009 08:44:54PM 0 points [-]

Mmm. You can usually tell that something's a celestial object, and thus not a flying object, without being able to classify it further...

Comment author: SilasBarta 22 October 2009 08:48:29PM *  3 points [-]

You've identified it in the relevant sense for the purposes for which the UFO classification was created.

Yikes, too much nesting!

The Air Force (or whatever) invented the classification UFO for an object they don't yet know how to respond to because of the current inability to identify it. Knowing that something is a far-off celestial object is sufficient identification in this context, making it no longer a UFO. [/pedant]

Bumper sticker: "UFOs are real; the Air Force doesn't exist!"

ETA: wait, that contradicts my original point. You know, just forget this last comment. Stars count as flying. They travel without touching a planet's ground. Deal with it. ;-)

Comment author: komponisto 22 October 2009 07:02:26PM 0 points [-]

Thank you.