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88 Post author: Yvain 07 March 2009 10:55PM

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Comment author: Yvain 08 March 2009 01:10:57AM 13 points [-]

I agree with your first paragraph, but I don't quite understand your second.

In particular, I don't understand what you mean by there being no need to say he "believes". If upon being asked he would assert that his IQ is 100, and he wouldn't be consciously aware of lying, isn't that enough to say he believes his IQ is 100 on at least one level?

(also, when I say I agree with your first paragraph, I do so on the assumption that we mean the same thing by status. In particular, I would describe the "status" in this case as closer to "self-esteem" than "real position in a social hierarchy". Are most Less Wrong readers already aware of the theory that self-esteem is the way the calculation of status feels from the inside, or is that worth another post?)

Comment author: cousin_it 16 May 2011 12:35:39PM 3 points [-]

Are most Less Wrong readers already aware of the theory that self-esteem is the way the calculation of status feels from the inside, or is that worth another post?

Why did I only stumble across this sentence two years after you wrote it?! It would've come in handy in the meanwhile, you know =) It will definitely come in handy now. Thanks!

Comment author: wedrifid 16 May 2011 12:55:36PM 0 points [-]

Did Yvain end up writing said post? That theory is approximately how I model self-esteem and it serves me well but I haven't seen what a formal theory on the subject looks like.

Comment author: Yvain 16 May 2011 12:59:15PM *  4 points [-]

http://lesswrong.com/lw/1kr/that_other_kind_of_status/ involves that idea; for the formal theory, Google "sociometer".

Comment author: wedrifid 16 May 2011 01:33:18PM 0 points [-]

sociometer

Thanks!