Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Simultaneously Right and Wrong - Less Wrong

88 Post author: Yvain 07 March 2009 10:55PM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 07 March 2009 11:51:29PM 7 points [-]

Excellent post - it makes me wish that the system gave out a limited number of super-votes, like 1 for every 20 karma, so that I could vote this up twice.

I hope you don't mind, but I did a quick edit to insert "a choice of" before "two drugs to test", because that wasn't clear on my first reading. (Feel free to revert if you prefer your original wording.) Also edited the self-deception tag to self_deception per previous standard.

Comment author: thomblake 08 March 2009 01:19:48AM 11 points [-]

Surely you have enough of a following here that you effectively have super-votes? Just go ahead and tell people you're voting something up, and that should generate at least two or three votes for free.

Also, 'promoting' an article seems to be a good enough option.

Comment author: PaulG 08 March 2009 12:32:03AM *  3 points [-]

The idea of super-votes sounds similar to the system they have at everything2, where users are awarded a certain number of "upvotes" and a certain number of "cools" every day, depending on their level. An upvote/downvote adds/subtracts 1 point to their equivalent of karma for the post and a Cool gives the player a certain number of points, is displayed as "Cooled" on the post and is promoted to their main page.

(I reposted this as a reply because I was unfamiliar with the posting system when I first wrote it.)

Comment author: Andrew 08 March 2009 06:22:40AM *  11 points [-]

Note that the karma system for Everything2 has changed recently. Specifically, because of abuse, downvoting no long subtracts karma.

'Cools' add twenty karma now. In the past, they only added three or so. This was changed to reflect the comparative scarcity of cools. Where in the old system, highly ranked users could cool multiple things per day, in the new system everyone is limited to one per day.

Their rationalization for these changes are listed here. I hope this information proves a bit useful to other people designing karma systems; at E2, we've been experimenting with karma systems since 1999. It'd be a shame to have that go to waste.

Comment author: Yvain 08 March 2009 01:28:28AM 9 points [-]

Thank you. Since I learned practically everything I know about rationality either from you or from books you recommended, I'm very happy to earn your approval...but also a little amused, since I consciously tried to copy your writing style as much as I could without actually inserting litanies.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 08 March 2009 02:02:35AM 8 points [-]

Heh! I almost wrote in my original comment: "How odd, an Eliezer post on Standard Biases written by Yvain", but worried that it might look like stealing credit, or that you might not like the comparison. I futzed around, deleted, and finally wrote "excellent post" instead. The wish for two upvotes is because my Standard Biases posts are the ones I feel least guilty about writing.