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Comment author: roland 08 March 2009 02:32:16AM 17 points [-]

This reminded me of Carol Dweck's study: http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2007/february7/dweck-020707.html

It is about having a fixed vs. growth theory of intelligence. If you think that your intelligence is fixed, you will avoid challenging tasks in order to preserve your self-image, whereas people with growth mentality will embrace it in order to improve. Important: never tell a child that it is intelligent.

Comment author: pdf23ds 09 March 2009 04:30:35AM 8 points [-]

I think it's more like "never praise a child for being intelligent". You can tell them they're smart if they are, just don't do it often or put any importance on it.

Comment author: WrongBot 29 June 2010 07:48:09PM 7 points [-]

While it was well-intentioned, this is by far the worst thing my parents did while raising me. Even now that I'm aware of the problem, it's a constant struggle to convince myself to approach difficult problems, even though I find working on them very satisfying. Does anyone know if there's been discussion here (or elsewhere, I suppose) about individual causes of akrasia? Childhood indoctrination into a particular theory of intelligence certainly seems to be one.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 29 June 2010 08:57:07PM 1 point [-]

Not a direct answer, but your post reminds me of This Is Why I'll Never Be an Adult.

Note that the downward spiral starts with self-congratulation, which seems to be a part of my pattern.

Comment author: WrongBot 29 June 2010 09:02:31PM 0 points [-]

Great link. I follow that pattern almost precisely, unfortunately. I'll have to spend some time analyzing my self-congratulatory habits and see what can be done.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 29 June 2010 09:09:39PM 2 points [-]

I don't have a cite, but I've read an article (a book? The Now Habit?) which claimed that procrastination is driven by the belief that getting things done is a reflection on your value as a person.

And why is akrasia a common problem among LessWrongians rather than, say, high-energy impulsiveness?

Comment author: mattnewport 29 June 2010 09:11:28PM 2 points [-]

I imagine akrasia is a more natural fit for a tendency to overthink things.