gwern comments on The Value of Nature and Old Books - Less Wrong

7 Post author: David_J_Balan 25 October 2009 06:14PM

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Comment author: Alicorn 26 October 2009 10:57:45PM 1 point [-]

You're either ignoring "absent human action" or taking it to mean something wildly different from what I had in mind. Buying a slave is a human action. I used the word "status quo" because we were talking about "nature" - a thing that usually includes in its definition that humans haven't messed with it all that much. I'd have chosen a different term (or more likely, made one up - I don't think there is a good one already for the general case) if the topic had not been nature.

If I moved into an apartment only to discover that the only bathtub was home to koi, I think much of my irkedness would stem from having been subject to misleading advertising. Misleading advertising is certainly a human action.

Comment author: gwern 26 October 2009 11:24:21PM 0 points [-]

If I moved into an apartment only to discover that the only bathtub was home to koi

'A wizard has turned your bathtub into a koi pond. Is this awesome Y/N?'

(I'm sorry, I couldn't resist.)

Comment author: DanArmak 26 October 2009 11:47:15PM 0 points [-]

'An evil sorcerer has turned your home into a human's bathtub. Is this a horrible eco-disaster Y/N?'

(In keeping with the theme of preservation of nature. Although koi aren't very natural.)