Alicorn comments on Open Thread: November 2009 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Alicorn 06 November 2009 02:24:48AM *  1 point [-]

I remember well enough to describe, but apparently not well enough to Google, a post or possibly a comment that said something to the effect that one should convince one's opponents with the same reasoning that one was in fact convinced by (rather than by other convenient arguments, however cogent). Can anyone help me find it?

Comment author: Zack_M_Davis 06 November 2009 02:38:29AM 1 point [-]

You're probably thinking of "A Rational Argument" or "Back Up and Ask Whether, Not Why".

Comment author: Alicorn 06 November 2009 02:42:56AM 0 points [-]

Neither of those look quite like it...

Comment author: RobinZ 06 November 2009 03:39:37AM *  0 points [-]

I was reminded of The Bottom Line, for what that's worth, although I see both "A Rational Argument" and "Back Up and Ask Whether, Not Why" link back to it.

Comment author: Alicorn 06 November 2009 03:49:35AM 0 points [-]

This looked like it might be it for a while, but I have the memory of the statement being made pretty directly, not just stabbed at sideways.

Comment author: Zack_M_Davis 06 November 2009 04:02:17AM 2 points [-]

The last paragraph of "Back Up" seems fairly explicit.

... "Singularity Writing Advice" points six and seven?

Comment author: Alicorn 06 November 2009 04:08:57AM 0 points [-]

Oh, the writing advice looks very much like what I remember - but I'm almost positive I haven't come across the particular document before! Perhaps some of the same prose was reused elsewhere?

Comment author: komponisto 06 November 2009 04:51:17AM *  0 points [-]

Eliezer has been known to recycle text from old documents on occasion. (I'm thinking of certain OB posts having to do with a Toyota Corolla and Deep Blue vs. Kasparov, which contain material lifted from here and here respectively.)