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Comment author: Morendil 18 November 2009 04:06:45PM 0 points [-]

IBM simulates cat's whole brain... research team bores simulated cat to death showing him IBM logo... announces human whole-brain real-time simulation for 2018...

Comment author: Nick_Tarleton 20 November 2009 04:14:34AM 3 points [-]
Comment author: Jordan 20 November 2009 07:54:46AM 1 point [-]

Unfortunately they're using toy neurons.

What I'd be excited to see is a high fidelity simulation of neurons in a petri dish, even just a few hundred. There's no problem scanning the topology here, the only problem is in accurately reproducing the biophysics. Once this has been demonstrated, human WBE is just a truckload of money away from reality.

Really, does anyone know of any groups working on something like this? I'd gladly throw away my current research agenda to work with them.

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 20 November 2009 08:25:49PM *  2 points [-]

What I'd be excited to see is a high fidelity simulation of neurons in a petri dish, even just a few hundred.

cf the nematode upload project, which looks dead. If people wanted to provide evidence that they're serious, this is what they'd do.

Comment author: Jordan 21 November 2009 01:12:57AM 1 point [-]

I've seen this around. It's unfortunate that it's dead.

There are more confounding factors in the nematode project than with just a petri dish. You have to worry about the whole nematode if you want to verify your results. It's also harder to 'read' a single neuron in action.

With a petri dish it would be possible to have an electrode in every neuron. Because the neurons are splayed out imaging techniques might be able to yield some insight into the internal chemical states of the neurons.

An uploaded nematode would be great, but an uploaded petri dish seems like a more tractable and logical first step.

Comment author: spriteless 19 November 2009 08:22:14AM 1 point [-]