steven0461 comments on Raising the Sanity Waterline - Less Wrong

112 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 12 March 2009 04:28AM

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Comment author: Marcello 12 March 2009 07:43:27AM 8 points [-]

Incidentally, I agree that using the term "spirituality" is not necessarily bad. Though, I'm careful to try to use it to refer to the general emotion of awe/wonder/curiosity about the universe. To me the word means something quite opposed to religion. I mean the emotion I felt years ago when I watched Carl Sagan's "Cosmos".... To me religion looks like what happens when spirituality is snuffed out by an answer which isn't as wonderfully strange and satisfyingly true as it could have been.

It's a word with positive connotations, and we might want to steal it. It would certainly help counteract the vulcan stereotype.

Comment author: steven0461 12 March 2009 04:57:04PM *  8 points [-]

I question whether awe and wonder about this giant mostly-unstructured human-hostile death trap we call a universe is an appropriate emotion for a rationalist. Morbid fascination, maybe -- Lovecraft and Teller, not Sagan.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 12 March 2009 06:57:44PM 15 points [-]

The place has potential if it were fixed up a bit. That's what gets me up in the morning.

Comment author: JulianMorrison 12 March 2009 05:10:23PM 3 points [-]

"Wonder" is the emotion that smells a bit off to me. Can you feel that if you are not enamored of mysterious answers?

Comment author: Johnicholas 12 March 2009 07:00:16PM 3 points [-]

Yes. See Sense of Wonder for examples.