MichaelGR comments on Raising the Sanity Waterline - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Alicorn 23 January 2010 10:37:05PM *  5 points [-]

We think that religions are false, and a shared priority of Less Wrong denizens is to believe things that are true instead. I'll readily admit that religion has some good effects. Many people find it comforting; it's inspired great works of art and music and architecture; it does a lot of work to funnel money to charitable causes, some of which are very helpful; it encourages community-building; and it has historically served as a cultural touchstone to enable the development of some very powerful iconography and tropes.

It's still false.

If you like the good things about religion, there are alternatives (although most of them only work piecemeal). For instance, there's Ethical Culture, which fills in the community gap a departing religion can leave.

Comment author: DaveInNYC 23 January 2010 10:58:50PM 1 point [-]

We think that religions are false, and a shared priority of Less Wrong denizens is to >believe things that are true instead

You'll get no argument from me that religions are false. You will get practically no argument from me that it makes sense to want to believe things that are true. What I question is, is it always rational to make others believe things that are true? If I leave my lights on when I leave the house so that would-be robbers think I am home when I am not, I am making a rational decision to make others believe something that is false.

If I am playing the Prisoner's Dilemma with someone (just once, so no tit-for-tat or anything), and I have the choice of making my opponent either act rationally or irrationally, the rational thing for me to do is make him act irrationally.

Comment author: MichaelGR 24 January 2010 05:22:25AM 1 point [-]

If I am playing the Prisoner's Dilemma with someone (just once, so no tit-for-tat or anything), and I have the choice of making my opponent either act rationally or irrationally, the rational thing for me to do is make him act irrationally.

Rationalists should win.