Alicorn comments on Less Wrong Q&A with Eliezer Yudkowsky: Ask Your Questions - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Alicorn 16 November 2009 10:30:24PM 2 points [-]

Seconded. There are a lot of libertarians-about-free-will who study free will, but nobody I've talked to has ever heard of anyone changing their mind on the subject of free will (except inasmuch as learning new words to describe one's beliefs counts) - so this has to be almost entirely due to more libertarians finding free will an interesting thing to study.

Comment author: Blueberry 16 November 2009 10:49:18PM *  2 points [-]

I've definitely changed my mind on free will. I used to be an incompatibilist with libertarian leanings. After reading Daniel Dennett's books, I changed my mind and became a compatiblist soft determinist.

Comment author: Jack 16 November 2009 10:54:44PM *  0 points [-]

Are you a professional philosopher/ were you a professional philosopher when you were an incompatibilist with libertarian leanings? I'd say the vast majority of those untrained in philosophy hold the view you held and the most rational/intelligent of them would change their minds once confronted with a decent compatiblist argument.

Edit: I'm being a little unfair. There are plenty of smart people who disagree with us.

Comment author: Blueberry 16 November 2009 11:05:22PM 1 point [-]

No, I wasn't, and I agree with you. Defending philosophical positions as a career creates a bias where you're less likely to change your mind (see Cialdini's work on congruence: e.g. POWs in communist brainwashing camps who wrote essays on why communism was good were more likely to support communism afer release). But even so, professional philosophers do change their mind once in a while.

Comment author: Jack 16 November 2009 11:10:08PM 1 point [-]

But even so, professional philosophers do change their mind once in a while.

Absolutely! I tentatively hold the thesis that professional philosophers even make progress on understanding some issues. But there seem to be a couple positions that professional philosophers rarely sway from once they hold those positions and I think Alicorn is right that metaphysical libertarianism is one of these views.

Comment author: Jack 16 November 2009 10:48:31PM 2 points [-]

Free will libertarianism is also infected with religious philosophy. There are certainly some libertarians with secular reasons for their positions but a lot of the support for this for position comes from those whose religious world view requires radical free will and if they didn't believe in God they wouldn't be libertarians. Same goes for a lot of substance dualists, frankly.