SilasBarta comments on Contrarianism and reference class forecasting - Less Wrong

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Comment author: SilasBarta 26 November 2009 08:35:51PM 0 points [-]

Okay, I confess, it's above my pay grade at this point: all I can do is defer to predominant theory in the field that Neanderthals were more intelligent at the level of the individual.

Note that this doesn't mean they were more "collectively intelligent". If they were better at problem solving on their own, but weren't as social as humans, they may have failed to pass knowledge between people and ended up re-inventing the wheel too much.

Comment author: DanArmak 27 November 2009 11:19:20AM 3 points [-]

predominant theory in the field that Neanderthals were more intelligent at the level of the individual.

But that's just what I'm asking about! Can you please give me some references that present or at least mention this theory? Because the WP articles don't even seem to mention it, and I can't find anything like it on Google.

Comment author: timtyler 03 January 2010 01:09:25PM 0 points [-]

The theory is that they had bigger brains - e.g. see the reference at:

http://lesswrong.com/lw/165/how_inevitable_was_modern_human_civilization_data/124q

Comment author: DanArmak 03 January 2010 05:04:53PM 0 points [-]

Yes, but they also had more massive bodies, possibly 30% more massive than modern humans. I'm not sure that they had a higher brain/body mass ratio than we do and even if they had, a difference on the order of 10% isn't strong evidence when comparing intelligence between species.

Comment author: wedrifid 26 November 2009 09:25:31PM 0 points [-]

Note that this doesn't mean they were more "collectively intelligent". If they were better at problem solving on their own, but weren't as social as humans, they may have failed to pass knowledge between people and ended up re-inventing the wheel too much.

Given the circumstances that would have been quite some achievement!