RobinZ comments on Rationality Quotes November 2009 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: RobinZ 30 November 2009 12:01:58AM *  5 points [-]

Never give in - never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.

Winston Churchill, 29 October 1941

Comment author: Sebastian_Hagen 03 December 2009 06:33:25PM *  1 point [-]

never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.

I'd like to add to that:

Never forget who the true enemy is.

Comment author: wedrifid 30 November 2009 02:53:01AM *  1 point [-]

never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.

I don't tend to yield to force or overwhelming might of what counts as my enemy. I do not consider this trait to be 'good sense'. Damn propaganda.

Comment author: RobinZ 30 November 2009 03:42:45AM 3 points [-]

...yeah, it's not a brilliant rationality quote, but there's a bit of a good point in it nonetheless: this is a case in which precommitment is necessary, because despite the fact that you would prefer not to be subject to the assault of an enemy, you don't want to establish that every threat will be profitable, however imaginary. Naive calculations neglect the effect of your decision method on the actions of others. (It's like in cryptography - your strategy has to work even if other people know the function.)

Comment author: wedrifid 30 November 2009 03:50:46AM *  0 points [-]

Another quote that means something far different (better) coming from you than from a politician.

Comment author: RobinZ 30 November 2009 04:05:31AM 1 point [-]

...I do believe this is why I have a section in my quotefile marked "uncontexted". I really couldn't say whether you're right or wrong - all I know is what I've read.