CronoDAS comments on Morality and International Humanitarian Law - Less Wrong

2 Post author: David_J_Balan 30 November 2009 03:27AM

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Comment author: Jack 30 November 2009 08:16:27PM 1 point [-]

There have been proposals for an independent force under the control of the UN. But I don't really have a problem with enforcement meaning nations warring for basically the same reasons I don't have a problem with the state using violence to enforce domestic law. For various reasons the kind of nations that are going to be involved in enforcement are going to be more democratic, more liberal, more legitimate and more powerful than the states run by war criminals. And the actions of the enforcement force will be observed far more closely by than the actions of your average autocracy. If this isn't obvious I guess I can go into it more. All this doesn't mean enforcement will never ever ever lead to abuse, but crimes during enforcement will be substantially less likely than crimes during your average ethnic conflict or authoritarian territory grab.

Comment author: CronoDAS 01 December 2009 03:01:03AM 2 points [-]

Given the current state of the world, Putin's Russia is going to be one of the enforcers. How do you feel about that?

Comment author: Jack 02 December 2009 11:20:22PM 0 points [-]

Not sure I grant the premise but Russia definitely isn't going to be enforcing anything unilaterally. Other militaries would be a pretty solid check on abuse.

Comment author: CronoDAS 03 December 2009 03:50:33AM 0 points [-]

Well, there was that one incident last year...

Comment author: Jack 03 December 2009 11:05:04AM 0 points [-]

How is that an instance of international law enforcement?

Comment author: orthonormal 03 December 2009 11:17:40PM 0 points [-]

Russia claimed, among other things, that it was acting to protect South Ossetians from Georgian genocide. That makes it definitely count as a case of Russia enforcing (their interpretation of) international law unilaterally, with no repercussions from other nations.

Comment author: Jack 03 December 2009 11:44:44PM 0 points [-]

That makes it a ilaw vigilante, not part of an enforcement regime. As a rule, aggressor nations say stuff like that. Part of the point of an international criminal court is to legitimize actual humanitarian interventions.