gwern comments on Call for new SIAI Visiting Fellows, on a rolling basis - Less Wrong

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Comment author: gwern 10 December 2009 09:52:44PM 0 points [-]

It's an interesting methodology, but the Maes-Garreau data is just terrible quality.

See, this is the sort of response I would expect: a possible bias is identified, some basic data is collected which suggests that it's plausible, and then we begin a more thorough inspection. Complete silence, though, was not.

where is Turing

Turing would be hard to do. He predicts in 1950 a machine could pass his test 70% of the time in another 50 years (2000; Turing was born 1912, so he would've been 88), and that this would be as good as a real mind. But is this a date for the Singularity or a genuine consciousness?

Comment author: CarlShulman 11 December 2009 01:18:54AM 1 point [-]

Yes, I considered that ambiguity, and certainly you couldn't send him a survey. But it gives a lower bound, and Turing does talk about machines equaling or exceeding human capacities across the board.

Comment author: gwern 11 December 2009 02:21:40AM 0 points [-]

Hm. Would it be justifiable to extrapolate Turing's predictions? Because we know that he was off by at least a decade on just the AI; presumably any Singularity would be have to be that much or more.