I mentioned them because they are current, and because it was thinking about them that got me considering the problem again. Not "flamebait" just the most current application of the problem I am addressing. A decade ago I might have used Plasma Cosmology (http://www.plasmacosmology.net/), since I had then recently read Lerner's "The Big Bang Never Happened" (http://bigbangneverhappened.org/ ).