PhilGoetz comments on Science - Idealistic Versus Signaling - Less Wrong

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Comment author: PhilGoetz 10 December 2009 08:28:02PM 0 points [-]

You seem to be saying: Countries that spend more money on publishing papers to signal their expertise publish more papers. Therefore, they are not signalling.

Comment author: gwern 10 December 2009 09:39:13PM 0 points [-]

This sounds like a fully-general counterargument: if a country is publishing few papers and those papers aren't getting cited or hailed, then obviously they have no major scientific expertise; but if they are publishing scads of highly cited papers, then they're merely spending lots of money on signaling and so have no major scientific expertise.

As I said, there being zero correlation between papers & citations and genuine scientific productivity seems unlikely to me and requires actual evidence and not hand^Wsignal-waving suggestions.