wedrifid comments on You Be the Jury: Survey on a Current Event - Less Wrong

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Comment author: k3nt 15 December 2009 09:23:44PM 3 points [-]

No prior familiarity; thus I started with no information and no particular beliefs about their guilt or innocence either way.

The first thing I saw was that Ann Coulter is convinced that Amanda and Raffaele are guilty. I immediately moved my belief in their guilt way down. When Ann Coulter takes a strong position on a controversial issue, she is almost always wrong.

From there it was mostly downhill for the prosecution, as far as I could tell.

"Later, when a airtight alibi forced the authorities to release Lumumba, they substituted Guede as the third participant in the alleged sex game, even though he had no known connection to either Amanda or Raffaele." That's just stupid. I don't trust the Italian police, or any police, when it comes to high-profile cases. The political pressure to get a guilty verdict is strong. Then, clear evidence that their original theory of the case was wrong came in, and they didn't significantly revise the theory. Not good.

The pro-guilt side keeps promising links to the "evidence," but I'm not finding it. Very irritating.

I don't care at all that their statements were confused. "She was kept up all night, claims to have been hit, and was denied a lawyer and professional translator" -- or so says the pro-innocence site. Sounds like standard operating procedure when you want to get someone convicted, regardless of the truth.

The physical evidence is confusing. I would need to know a lot more about DNA and luminol and so on to evaluate the claims and counter-claims here.

Total time spent, 45 minutes. My conclusion is maybe 10% guilty for these two, but it's a very tentative conclusion and I know that much of it is based on my belief in Ann Coulter's wrongness ... which is the sort of appeal that shouldn't be reliable -- although based on experience it appears to be.

Comment author: wedrifid 15 December 2009 10:16:16PM 1 point [-]

I don't care at all that their statements were confused. "She was kept up all night, claims to have been hit, and was denied a lawyer and professional translator"

They can do that?