mormon2 comments on A question of rationality - Less Wrong

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Comment author: mormon2 13 December 2009 04:55:04PM 5 points [-]

I am going to respond to the general overall direction of your responses.

That is feeble, and for those who don't understand why let me explain it.

Eliezer works for SIAI which is a non-profit where his pay depends on donations. Many people on LW are interested in SIAI and some even donate to SIAI, others potentially could donate. When your pay depends on convincing people that your work is worthwhile it is always worth justifying what you are doing. This becomes even more important when it looks like you're distracted from what you are being paid to do. (If you ever work with a VC and their money you'll know what I mean.)

When it comes to ensuring that SIAI continues to pay especially when you are the FAI researcher there justifying why you are writing a book on rationality which in no way solves FAI becomes extremely important.

EY ask yourself this what percent of the people interested in SIAI and donate are interested FAI? Then ask what percent are interested in rationality with no clear plan of how that gets to FAI? If the answer to the first is greater then the second then you have a big problem, because one could interpret the use of your time writing this book on rationality as wasting donated money unless there is a clear reason how rationality books get you to FAI.

P.S. If you want to educate people to help you out as someone speculated you'd be better off teaching them computer science and mathematics.

Remember my post drew no conclusions so for Yvain I have cast no stones I merely ask questions.

Comment author: Zack_M_Davis 13 December 2009 07:41:49PM 4 points [-]

If you want to educate people to help you out as someone speculated you'd be better off teaching them computer science and mathematics.

Even on the margin? There are already lots of standard textbooks and curricula for mathematics and computer science, whereas I'm not aware of anything else that fills the function of Less Wrong.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 14 December 2009 06:41:39PM 2 points [-]

why you are writing a book on rationality which in no way solves FAI

Rationality is the art of not screwing up - seeing what is there instead of what you want to see, or are evolutionarily suspectible to seeing. When working on a task that may have (literally) earth-shattering consequences, there may not be a skill that's more important. Getting people educated about rationality is of prime importance for FAI.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 13 December 2009 07:18:31PM 2 points [-]

If you are previously a donor to SIAI, I'll be happy to answer you elsewhere.

If not, I am not interested in what you think SIAI donors think. Given your other behavior, I'm also not interested in any statements on your part that you might donate if only circumstances were X. Experience tells me better.