wedrifid comments on The Amanda Knox Test: How an Hour on the Internet Beats a Year in the Courtroom - Less Wrong

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Comment author: christopherj 31 January 2014 03:13:49AM 0 points [-]

Whoops, looks like Amanda Knox is guilty again. Of course, the lack of double jeapordy protection in Italy might be an impediment to their extradition request.

Comment author: wedrifid 31 January 2014 07:40:45PM 2 points [-]

Whoops, looks like Amanda Knox is guilty again.

This is an area in which word use is important. "Is guilty" is not a fact about the universe or Amanda Knox that is changed by the behaviour now of corrupt Italian prosecutors.

Of course, the lack of double jeapordy protection in Italy might be an impediment to their extradition request.

"Innocent until proven guilty. And also innocent after proven guilty then proven not-actually-proven-guilty. Like, innocent for keeps."

Comment author: komponisto 31 January 2014 08:10:52PM 0 points [-]

Just to expand on your point:

"And also innocent after proven guilty then proven not-actually-proven-guilty.."

should probably be "...innocent after proven 'guilty'...", lest we lose the meaning of "proven".

Comment author: wedrifid 31 January 2014 08:50:07PM *  0 points [-]

should probably be "...innocent after proven 'guilty'...", lest we lose the meaning of "proven".

Good point. I also feel the urge to put quotes around 'proven' for the same reason, distinguishing the epistemic act from the political victory.