grouchymusicologist comments on Rebasing Ethics - Less Wrong

-9 Post author: Shalmanese 15 December 2009 01:56PM

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Comment author: taw 15 December 2009 02:30:21PM 2 points [-]

Unless you are with friends or a frequent diner at a restaurant or bar, the correct moral move is to stiff the waiter on the tip. If you're traveling somewhere alone, you should universally fail to tip as you're not likely to ever return there. If this fills you with immediate moral revulsion, you're not alone.

I never tipped any waiter in my life. Tipping waiters seems to be an American idea. They are employees and they should be getting normal salaries.

Comment author: grouchymusicologist 15 December 2009 02:46:34PM *  3 points [-]

They are employees and they should be getting normal salaries.

Maybe they should be, but In American restaurants, they aren't -- it can even in some places be permissible to pay them less than the minimum wage in the expectation that average (voluntary) tips from customers will bring their total compensation above the minimum wage. It might not be an efficient method of payment, but in the American context it isn't a method that one can unilaterally do away with.

Comment author: Technologos 16 December 2009 09:40:20AM 1 point [-]

And it might even be more efficient than a salary, in the same way that performance-based pay is used in retail stores and other places where effort is harder to monitor than desk jobs.

Comment author: randallsquared 17 December 2009 11:17:01PM 0 points [-]

I think you meant to say "easier to measure".

Comment author: Technologos 18 December 2009 09:49:10AM 0 points [-]

Where the results of effort are easier to measure, do you mean?