wnoise comments on Getting Over Dust Theory - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wnoise 23 March 2010 12:47:02AM 1 point [-]

If you learned that we were in fact in a simulations, would you feel that you were not real? Would you have an overwhelming desire to escape, in order to become real?

Comment author: Mitchell_Porter 23 March 2010 06:09:38AM 2 points [-]

Cogito ergo sum. If I am learning or feeling anything, I do actually exist (though my perceptions and beliefs may be false). It is impossible for me to not be real in the sense of not presently existing, however it is that the alleged simulation works.

Comment author: ata 23 March 2010 06:55:32AM 1 point [-]

Do you agree that it would be possible to feel real inside a simulation (whether the simulation is of one mind or a whole universe)?

Comment author: Mitchell_Porter 23 March 2010 07:05:58AM 2 points [-]

"Inside a simulation" means several things. A brain in a vat, plugged into Second Life 2.0, is "inside a simulation". But you want the brain itself to be a simulation too, yes? I certainly don't believe that every simulation of a brain is conscious. A sign with a smiley face on it is a crude "simulation of happiness", but I think we will agree there's no actual happiness around in that situation. There is a continuum of possibilities between a smiley face and a happy person, and at some point on that continuum you get the real thing, but certainly not everywhere on the continuum.