David_J_Balan comments on Mandating Information Disclosure vs. Banning Deceptive Contract Terms - Less Wrong

21 Post author: David_J_Balan 20 December 2009 08:55PM

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Comment author: RobinHanson 21 December 2009 08:33:19PM 0 points [-]

Not knowing "which companies are tricking them most" is ignorance, and standard models of ignorance can apply.

Comment author: David_J_Balan 21 December 2009 09:18:42PM 2 points [-]

But ignorance in rational agent models of asymmetric information don't cause people to be tricked, so it's can't be ignorance of that sort.

It seems perfectly plausible to me that people understand that the deck is stacked against them, while at the same time not knowing exactly how to protect themselves and so falling for some of the tricks, and would be perfectly happy to have a government they trusted simply remove the bad stuff from the menu. I know that's how I see it.

Comment author: matt 22 December 2009 09:09:52AM *  5 points [-]

Ooo - sign me up for that! A government I trust that will remove the bad stuff from the menu, and... ohh, hang on. What will the credit card companies, who are a concentrated, highly incentivesed interest group, do next? How will they act on our democratically elected representatives? When we present our carefully thought out policy recommendations to parliament, and the parliament passes the details through to committee... what will happen next? What's likely to come out the other end of the legislative sausage machine?

When we then try to organize the millions of self-identified likely victims of complexity, and the hundreds of thousands of wise altruists who want to help the likely victims, for all of whom this is a fairly unimportant matter... when we array them against the lobbiests... who's likely to stay the course and win the regulation that'll help their tribe?

Comment author: RobinHanson 22 December 2009 08:00:25PM 0 points [-]

David, that situation is well modeled as ignorance. So either there are models of ignorance supporting your case, or you need to describe a different situation.

Comment author: David_J_Balan 22 December 2009 09:37:21PM 1 point [-]

I think clarifying this disagreement is worth a seperate post, which I'll write up in the next few days.