loqi comments on Mandating Information Disclosure vs. Banning Deceptive Contract Terms - Less Wrong

21 Post author: David_J_Balan 20 December 2009 08:55PM

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Comment author: David_J_Balan 20 December 2009 11:51:55PM 2 points [-]

I'm not aware of any general standards for distinguishing between abusive contracts and beneficial ones and I'm not sure there could be any. But the question "would anyone who really understood what was going on ever want this contract?" must be a relevant one. You could argue about how much humility should be applied: after all, just because I can't see any reason why a rational person would sign this contract doesn't mean there isn't one. So as is often the case, the optimal policy is not obvious. But make no mistake. The libertarian policy will result on a whole bunch of vulnerable people (almost none of whom will be libertarians by the way) getting screwed over and over and over again. You could (barely) argue that the libertarian policy has benefits that overbalances these costs, but there is no denying that the costs are real and big.

Comment author: loqi 21 December 2009 11:23:36PM 1 point [-]

But the question "would anyone who really understood what was going on ever want this contract?" must be a relevant one.

Indeed, and this only seems like the "first-order" version of the question. For example, a credit card with extreme late payment penalties might be of reasonable appeal to someone sufficiently confident in their ability to pay on time. But it would need to derive its appeal from some other benefit, which presumably exists only because enough people fall into the late payment trap. In this way the credit card company becomes more like a "trickery broker", passing along the spoils to some rational subset of customers while taking a cut.

So a variant of your question might be, "if this contract were only entered into by people who really understood the terms, would it still exist?"