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38 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 21 December 2009 10:01PM

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Comment author: PhilGoetz 21 December 2009 10:13:56PM *  22 points [-]

Some views are contrarian in society at large, but dominant views in particular subcultures. Libertarian views aren't dominant in economics, but they're (correct me if I'm wrong) dominant in the economics department at George Mason where Robin Hanson works. Does that make Robin a contrarian, or a conformist?

I bet that most 9/11 conspiracy theorists have a lot of friends who are also conspiracy theorists. Sometimes supporting one contrarian theory (the Jews were behind 9/11) is a way of aligning with a larger, locally-conformist narrative (the Jews are behind everything).

Next thing you know, someone will say Jews are behind the Singularity Institute... um... uh-oh.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 21 December 2009 10:27:17PM 10 points [-]

Yes, if nearly all "contrarian" views are just conformity with local groups, then there will be no c-factor - just a lot of ideologies that don't correlate with each other. This was alluded to in the OP.

This could be true of the general population but not of academia/intelligentsia, in which case polling 10,000 respondents there might still work.