orthonormal comments on The Correct Contrarian Cluster - Less Wrong

38 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 21 December 2009 10:01PM

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Comment author: PhilGoetz 23 December 2009 02:57:34PM *  0 points [-]

I find it counterintuitive, but not impossible. it's this specific implementation that I have trouble with. But the "string" example does appear to work.

Moving faster than the wind is not even counterintuitive; sailboats can, because the mass of the wind is greater than the mass of the boat. Moving downwind faster than the wind is counterintuitive.

Comment author: orthonormal 23 December 2009 07:46:34PM 0 points [-]

Right; I was talking about two linked problems (mentioned together by you), and linked to a discussion of each: sailboats keeling faster than the wind by Tao, and DDFTTW by Chu-Carroll. The characteristics I listed applied to each problem in much the same way, so I discussed them together.