Bo102010 comments on The 9/11 Meta-Truther Conspiracy Theory - Less Wrong

43 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 22 December 2009 06:59PM

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Comment author: knb 22 December 2009 10:52:31PM *  2 points [-]

Generally this theory is said to imply that the planes were remote controlled , correct? I've always wondered how this theory fits in with all of the dead passengers. Could you explain that please?*

*I apologize for any perceived troll-feeding, I've always wanted to understand this.

Comment author: PlaidX 22 December 2009 11:21:37PM *  1 point [-]

The truthers diverge widely on this. Some think there really were muslim hijackers, some think the planes were swapped with drones and the passengers were shot in the head or something, some think the passengers and crew were knocked out or killed with gas while the planes were in the air, and then they were flown by autopilot into their targets.

You'd be hard pressed to find two truthers who agree about what really happened on 9/11, just as you'd be hard pressed to find two singularitarians who agree about the singularity. As the saying goes, the fringe likes to fray.

All the theories are quite contorted, but it's important to bear in mind that the official story is also contorted, and full of holes to boot. It's just that we're familiar with it. For instance, those cell phone calls from 30000 feet?

Comment author: Bo102010 23 December 2009 04:09:33AM *  14 points [-]

I didn't watch your video, but most of the "impossible" calls were from flipping GTE Airphones, not cell phones.

The calls that were actually made by cellular phones (near the end) would certainly have been possible.

(I was an RF engineer for a mobile phone company until I changed jobs this year)

I hesitate to post this, because... debating 9/11 conspiracy people on Less Wrong?!

Comment author: CronoDAS 23 December 2009 04:48:35AM 1 point [-]

I hesitate to post this, because... debating 9/11 conspiracy people on Less Wrong?!

At least we don't have any "fundies" yet. ;)

Comment author: PlaidX 23 December 2009 11:29:34AM -1 points [-]

As the video explains, it later came to light that flight 77 did not HAVE airphones.

Comment author: Bo102010 23 December 2009 01:25:00PM *  4 points [-]

I'm done after this, but nothing I've read ever claimed that flight had used them. And as I've said, the mobile phone calls would have been certainly possible.

You accept that airplanes can have radio contact with the ground as part of normal operation, but have trouble with the idea that the radios in mobile phones could work? (Yes they are lower power, but they're just radios.)

Comment author: Jawaka 26 December 2009 02:40:45PM 1 point [-]