TheOtherDave comments on Two Truths and a Lie - Less Wrong

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Comment author: TheOtherDave 22 June 2012 12:25:42AM 1 point [-]

As a practical matter of evolution, signal-detection has to evolve before signal-generation, or there's no benefit to generating the signal

Er?
This seems to preclude cases where pre-existing behaviors are co-opted as signals.
Did you mean to preclude such cases?

Comment author: pjeby 22 June 2012 01:39:47AM 1 point [-]

This seems to preclude cases where pre-existing behaviors are co-opted as signals. Did you mean to preclude such cases?

Bleah. I notice that I am confused. Or at least, confusing. ;-)

What I was trying to say was that there's no reason to fake (or enhance) a characteristic or behavior until after it's being evaluated by others. So the evolutionary process is:

  1. There's some difference between individuals that provides useful information
  2. A detector evolves to exploit this information
  3. Selection pressure causes faking of the signal

This process is also repeated in memetic form, as well as genetic form. People do a behavior for some reason, people learn to use it to evaluate, and then other people learn to game the signal.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 22 June 2012 01:53:56AM 1 point [-]

Ah, gotcha. Yes, that makes sense.