Sebastian_Hagen comments on On the Power of Intelligence and Rationality - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Sebastian_Hagen 23 December 2009 09:06:09PM *  3 points [-]

Nitpick:

the fact that many former top predators are now extinct

Mammoths, predators? My initial intuitive reaction was that that couldn't possibly be right - they're way too massive for that. It's a bit tricky to find definite statements on this on the web, but the relevant WP article does say that "Their teeth were also adapted to their diet of coarse tundra grasses". Also note that their closest surviving relatives are herbivores. I'm 0.9 sure mammoths weren't predators. Do you have evidence for your claim?

Comment author: alyssavance 23 December 2009 09:34:52PM 1 point [-]

"I'm 0.9 sure mammoths weren't predators. Do you have evidence for your claim?"

Nope, it appears that you are right. Saber-toothed tigers work just as well, though.

Comment author: Sebastian_Hagen 23 December 2009 10:03:38PM *  2 points [-]

And for that matter, driving mammoths to extinction is no mean feat either (though it was probably not just pressure from human hunting - apparently we got help from climate changes). Herbivores have been optimized to limit their risk from predation, and for the heavier ones (which can't hope to outrun a predator) those adaptions usually involve fighting back. Them not being naturally aggressive doesn't mean it's trivial to bring one down.