DanArmak comments on On the Power of Intelligence and Rationality - Less Wrong

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Comment author: DanArmak 26 December 2009 02:44:40PM 1 point [-]

No, rationality == winning by definition. Intelligence doesn't seem to be well defined.

Comment author: alyssavance 29 December 2009 10:01:44AM 2 points [-]

Rationality = having accurate beliefs about the world, not winning. If Eliezer Yudkowsky were serving a life sentence in a prison in Pakistan, he would be much more rational than the average person, but much less capable of winning.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 30 December 2009 10:30:36PM 7 points [-]

Eh, I'd just convince them to let me out.

Comment author: Bo102010 30 December 2009 10:40:46PM 4 points [-]

Hahahaha... How long have you been saving that one?

Comment author: CronoDAS 31 December 2009 02:50:55AM 2 points [-]

I suspect that it's easier to talk your way out of an AI-box than a prison cell.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 31 December 2009 05:05:49AM 5 points [-]

Perhaps, but I'm a bit stunned at the idea that being in a prison cell means you should just give up. Have I taught you all nothing?

Comment author: orthonormal 31 December 2009 05:24:24AM 2 points [-]

Well, come on, the first ideas I thought of wouldn't work in that situation. What do you expect me to do, think about it for five minutes?

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 31 December 2009 06:48:37AM 4 points [-]

The full phrase is "think about it for five minutes by an actual physical clock".

Comment author: CronoDAS 31 December 2009 07:06:18PM 0 points [-]

Good point.

Comment author: komponisto 31 December 2009 08:01:03AM *  0 points [-]

I'm a bit stunned at the idea that being in a prison cell means you should just give up. Have I taught you all nothing?

Or, if you like, you can take it from Amanda.

Comment author: DanArmak 30 December 2009 10:25:29PM 1 point [-]

Rationality == winning, but you still have to work with what you're given, obviously. Given that you're serving a life sentence in a Pakistani prison, (perfect) rationality will let you make the best of it.