djcb comments on That other kind of status - Less Wrong
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Trolling might be a junkfood equivalent of seeking status.
Does real status have to include material rewards, or is just making other people feel bad enough?
Actually, that could explain the junkfood nature of trolling. In most of human experience, being able to hurt people without risk of retaliation is proof of status.
That's an interesting way to look at it, but aren't trolls usually (semi-)anonymous? It's hard to gain status that way. People with highly controversial opinions that aren't anonymous usually consider themselves to be contrarians rather than trolls,or?
Using the Wikipedia definition of (social) status:
I think we'd need a different word for the thing trolls and other pyromaniacs are seeking.
(edit: s/Wiki/Wikipedia/, small clarification in third line)
We could call them "lulz".
Anyway, I don't know why trolling is fun, but it is.
Wikipedia has that definition. “Wiki” is a category of software, and does not. Please don't confuse the two.
I think I disagree with your rebuke. I see "Wiki definition" as similar to Stephen Colbert's wikiality concept.
I could see using "wiki definition" (without the capital "W") to mean a definition with too many anonymous authors to be useful. But djcb evidently didn't mean it that way.
ISTM that people feel "freedom from retribution" on a visceral level, but not the "pseudonymous status doesn't count" concept. It's outside the scope of the ancestral environment, so we shouldn't expect our emotions to be fully coherent here.