Jonii comments on A Master-Slave Model of Human Preferences - Less Wrong
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I'm still not understanding what do people mean by "value" as a noun. Other than simple "feeling pain or such would be a bummer", I lack anything that even remotely resembles the way people here seem to value stuff, or, how paperclip maximizer values paperclips. So, what exactly do people mean by values? Since this discussion seems to attempt to explain variation of values, I think this question is somewhat on-topic.
Does this description of value help?
From discussions with you, I seem to recall that you at least value free access to information and other things associated with the Pirate ideology. Remember when I was talking about that business model for a hypothetical magazine that would summarize the content of basic university courses for everyone and offer an archive of past articles for subscribers? If I remember correctly, it was you who objected that the notion of restricting access behind a paywall felt wrong.
I do value it in the meaning "I think that it's really useful approximation for how society can protect itself and all people in it and make many people happy". Why I care about making many people happy? I don't, really. Making many people happy is kinda assumed to be the goal of societies, and out of general interest in optimizing stuff I like to attempt to figure out better ways for it to do that. Nothing beyond that. I don't feel that this goal is any "better" than trying to make people as miserable as possible. Other than that I object to being miserable myself.
I don't remember ever claiming something to be wrong as such, but only wrong assuming some values. Going against pirate-values because it's better for magazine-keeper would be bad news for the "more optimal" pirate-society, because that society wouldn't be stable.
edit: And based on that writing, my own well-being and not-unhappiness is the sole intrinsic value I have. I know evolution has hammered some reactions into my brain, like reflex-like bad feeling when I see others get hurt or something, but other than that brief feeling, I don't really care.
Or, I wouldn't care if my own well-being wouldn't relate to others doing well or worse. But undestanding this requires conscious effort, and it's quite different than what I thought values to be like.
Interesting.
In that case, your own well-being is probably your only intrinsic value. That's far from unheard of: the amount of values people have varies. Some have lots, some only have one. Extremely depressed people might not have any at all.