James_Miller comments on New Year's Predictions Thread - Less Wrong

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Comment author: James_Miller 02 January 2010 04:54:26PM 2 points [-]

How about this - I win if before he leaves office I can point to a speech Obama gave in which he advocates means testing Social Security. Otherwise you win. The speech has to be given after today, so you don't fear this is some kind of trick.

If I win I get $100 from you. If you win I give you $233. But with these odds I'm indifferent to making the bet. So for me to be willing to bet I want you to agree that if Obama makes such a speech you have to pay me right away.

Comment author: James_K 03 January 2010 01:03:20AM 2 points [-]

That works for me, with one little change. The end of his term needs to be counted as the end of a presidential election he doesn't win, rather than the inauguration of his successor. This is because the reason I don't think its very likely is that the political effects on him would be dire, so if he does it as a lame duck president he has nothing to lose. I'm still willing to take the risk on his second term since even a second-term president is subject to some political forces.

And as a clarification, I take "means testing" to mean increasing or decreasing social security payouts based on a person's assets or income. It also has to apply to US citizens to count.

And since I'm not an American, I'd just like to confirm that the best is in US dollars. That works for me, and I assume it works for you too.

Comment author: James_Miller 03 January 2010 05:45:49PM 4 points [-]

OK, I accept - and yes the bet should be in U.S. dollars.

Please contact me at

EconomicProf@Yahoo.com so we can exchange addresses.