Jack comments on Are wireheads happy? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 14 November 2010 08:11:05PM 18 points [-]

I've seen a fair amount of happiness research, and happiness tends towards the "liking" end of the scale. What makes people happy is giving to charity, meditating, long walks, and so on; what makes people unhappy is commuting, work stress, and child-rearing. Religion, old age, and living in Utah also make people happy.

A life designed to maximize happiness, according to happiness researchers, would not be a hedonistic orgy, as one might imagine. You are actually happier with a fair degree of self-restraint. But it would have a lot more peaceful hobbies and fewer grand, stressful goals (like strenuous careers and parenthood.) To me, the happiness-optimized life does not sound fun. It is not something I would look forward to with anticipation and eagerness. Statistically speaking, we'd like such a life, but we wouldn't want it. Myself, I'd rather be given what I want than what would make me happy.

Comment author: Jack 14 November 2010 08:19:59PM 3 points [-]

Living in Utah does not make people happy.

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Comment author: [deleted] 14 November 2010 08:27:07PM 1 point [-]

Sure. But if I wanted to live in the best place to make me happy, and all I knew was the happiness distribution by geographic location, it would be dumb to choose to live somewhere other than the happiest place, right?

Comment author: ata 14 November 2010 08:28:10PM 6 points [-]

Yes, but happiness distribution by geographic location isn't all you know.

Comment author: diegocaleiro 06 January 2011 02:00:26AM *  2 points [-]

Also it is not relevant, since happiness varies infinitely more due to other circumstances. 50% unchangeable genes 40% how you deal with the lemons life give you and the strawberries as well. 10% all your life conditions, from marriage, to children, to how rich you are. A tiny tiny bit of those 10% is determined by where you live. (2008 Lyubuomirsky)