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Well, I was only going to post all the minutiae if there was any interest...
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint/295/3/285.pdf
The two groups are as follows:
Assigned to "Watchful Waiting":
Assigned to surgery:
Some patients crossed between the two groups, but this does not matter, as they were testing the effects of the initial assignment.
They report p = 0.52, but they also give a 95% confidence interval for the difference in risk, which just barely contains zero; which is a dead giveaway that p should be around 0.05, right? Anyway, doing a chi-squared test on the above numbers, I got p = 0.053.
The relevant bit is at the top of page 289 (page 6 of the PDF). Also relevant are the Results section of the abstract, and Figures 1 and 2. Essentially the entire problem is this statement:
You are correct, and the pdf that you linked contains a correction on its last page:
It does not say anything about whether this affects their conclusions.
Argh how silly of me not to see that. I stop reading at the references! Honestly though, it's annoying that the abstract remains wrong.