Wei_Dai comments on Open Thread: January 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Wei_Dai 11 January 2010 10:23:45PM 8 points [-]

I rewatched 12 Monkeys last week (because my wife was going through a Brad Pitt phase, although I think this movie cured her of that :), in which Bruce Willis plays a time traveler who accidentally got locked up in a mental hospital. The reason I mention it here is because It contained an amusing example of mutual belief updating: Bruce Willis's character became convinced that he really is insane and needs psychiatric care, while simultaneously his psychiatrist became convinced that he actually is a time traveler and she should help him save the world.

Perhaps the movie also illustrates a danger of majoritarianism: if someone really found a secret that could save the world, it would be tragic if he allowed himself to be convinced otherwise due to majoritarian considerations. Don't most (nearly all?) true beliefs start their existence as a minority?

Comment author: MichaelGR 19 January 2010 04:19:45PM *  2 points [-]

The movie is also a good example of existential risk in fiction (in this case, a genetically engineered biological agent).

Comment author: HalFinney 14 January 2010 11:01:48PM *  0 points [-]

I agree about the majoritarianism problem. We should pay people to adopt and advocate independent views, to their own detriment. Less ethically we could encourage people to think for themselves, so we can free-ride on the costs they experience.

Comment author: Wei_Dai 15 January 2010 07:25:21PM 1 point [-]

We should pay people to adopt and advocate independent views, to their own detriment.

I guess we already do something like that, namely award people with status for being inventors or early adopters of ideas (think Darwin and Huxley) that eventually turn out to be accepted by the majority.