Alicorn comments on A Suite of Pragmatic Considerations in Favor of Niceness - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Furcas 06 January 2010 12:08:03AM 6 points [-]

It kind of is: I wouldn't want to be mistaken for one of those people.

Also, I wouldn't want anyone to refrain from criticizing me for fear of sounding like a strident jerk.

Comment author: Alicorn 06 January 2010 12:53:58AM * 15 points [-]

I have hesitated to criticize you beyond a certain point in the past because you have often come across as mean, and because I expected such criticism to result in that being aimed at me. If you do not want people to hesitate to criticize you, perhaps you should be nice.

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 06 January 2010 01:48:04AM 10 points [-]

That was ironic self-referential humor, right? I've learned that ironic self-referential humor has a surprisingly low chance of making it across the Internet gap.

Comment author: bogus 06 January 2010 02:02:02AM * 9 points [-]

I've learned that ironic self-referential humor has a surprisingly low chance of making it across the Internet gap.

I'm not really sure about Furcas's remark. There is a real correlation between having a "thick skin" and propensity to be mean to others, and far too many people seem to think that the former entitles them to the latter. This is why Crocker's Rules have been so widely misinterpreted.

Comment author: dansmith 07 January 2010 12:35:10AM 6 points [-]

On the other hand, people also often seem to think that a propensity to be nice to others entitles them to have an overly thin skin.

Comment author: bogus 07 January 2010 01:07:11AM 4 points [-]

Yes, of course. And this is a problem in some debate fora, where politeness is expected and enforced. But being easily offended is not going to be a successful strategy here at LW.

Comment author: Furcas 06 January 2010 02:08:19AM * 6 points [-]

Yes it was, although, to be perfectly honest, I first thought "That's pathetic" and then noticed how hilarious it was and posted it.

Comment author: Tyrrell_McAllister 06 January 2010 09:04:35PM 1 point [-]

Were you laughing with your first thought or at your first thought?

Comment author: Furcas 06 January 2010 09:18:02PM 0 points [-]

With it, obviously.

Comment author: Kingreaper 12 October 2010 12:41:55PM * 1 point [-]

So it was, in fact, unironic, sardonic humor. And not ironic self-referential humour. For it to be irony you need to mean something other than what you're saying. Had you been laughing both with AND at it it would have been ironic sardonic humour.

But I'm sure you knew that. You're very smart after all. Your mean behaviour proves that you are highly intelligent, by asserting your higher intellectual status than others.

/\ Can you guess what kind of humour that* is?

*and this

Comment author: MrHen 06 January 2010 09:23:40PM 0 points [-]

I voted the "pathetic" comment down but this one up so there was no net change in karma. I don't think you deserve any karma hit because I think the intent was fine; only the delivery was botched.

Just FYI in case you care. :)

Comment author: MichaelVassar 06 January 2010 11:52:16PM 0 points [-]

I did the same.

Comment author: Alicorn 06 January 2010 01:10:55AM 4 points [-]

Yep, I thought twice before saying it because I suspected you might say something like that, and I don't like it when people say things like that to me.

Comment author: Furcas 06 January 2010 01:16:52AM 2 points [-]

Yep, I thought twice before saying it because I suspected you might say something like that, and I don't like it when people say things like that to me.

And yet you said it anyway! That is laudable.

Comment author: ciphergoth 06 January 2010 10:31:28AM 9 points [-]

It can be laudable to run into a burning building to rescue someone, but that doesn't make it OK to set the building on fire. Now that you know that you're protecting yourself from disagreement by being not-nice, will you do it less?

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