Morendil comments on A Suite of Pragmatic Considerations in Favor of Niceness - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ciphergoth 06 January 2010 10:37:49AM 7 points [-]

A spade has to be called a spade, but when does a moron have to be called a moron?

Either other people are convinced by Moron's arguments, in which case you have to actually address them, and calling them a moron will only stand in the way. Or, no-one is, in which case if you've written off convincing Moron themselves, then there is simply no point in addressing them.

The role that you write for yourself is one I find very appealing - the guy who Tells It Like It Is - but I'm a long way from being convinced that it will maximise our tendency towards accurate conclusions.

Comment author: Morendil 06 January 2010 11:20:05AM 10 points [-]

Calling a particular remark or behavior moronic seems sometimes necessary; I fail to see how it is helpful to characterize a person as a moron.

Most of the time this type of insult is false to fact: your interlocutors are not, in fact, mentally retarded, they are merely wrong. Sometimes obstinately wrong, sometimes wrong in ways actively harmful to themselves and others; but experience proves beyond doubt that this happens to people of average and higher intelligence.

Calling someone a moron is designed to provoke them, and signal something to other readers; it serves no useful discursive purpose.