orthonormal comments on High Status and Stupidity: Why? - Less Wrong

34 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 12 January 2010 04:36PM

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Comment author: orthonormal 13 January 2010 01:28:48AM 10 points [-]

One reason I've had such fun reading the customer-service-horror-story blog Not Always Right is that it provides scads of anecdotal evidence that otherwise bright and competent people, when put in a situation where they feel they have high status (e.g. as a paying customer dealing with an employee), are suddenly quite apt to fail noticing the obvious, refuse to process information given them repeatedly, or read an entire situation confidently wrong.

Comment author: cabalamat 13 January 2010 01:42:50AM 9 points [-]

I see no evidence that the customers featured in Not Always Right are otherwise bright and competent.

Comment author: orthonormal 14 January 2010 06:51:42AM 2 points [-]

Mere stupidity doesn't explain it, as it would cause people to assume themselves mistaken as often as they assume the employee is. As clearly demonstrated, there's a gigantic bias blind spot regarding who's at fault (one capable of instantly switching around memories), which I expect isn't there (as much) when these people are dealing with peers or superiors.

Or to take another example, I can't find the reference: a famous (former?) con man said that one key to keeping the mark from thinking clearly is getting them to think they're getting the advantage of someone dumber or otherwise lower status.

Obviously, all anecdotal, but strong enough, and not paired with corresponding evidence in the other direction.

Comment author: sketerpot 13 January 2010 06:46:39AM 1 point [-]

None of the bright and competent people I know would ever do something as ridiculous as the stories on Not Always Right. Some of the dumber people I know would, though.

Comment author: scav 13 January 2010 04:02:06PM 0 points [-]

True. But maybe their delusion of status caused them to act even dumber than they would have in a situation where they felt the status gradient leaning in the other direction. We'd need studies to be carried out to be sure. Anyone know of any?

Comment author: Carinthium 13 November 2010 05:59:35AM 2 points [-]

Wouldn't the blog be a very poor source of evidence given it's highly selective sample? At best it would illustrate what sort of events happen in the most annoying cases (for employees).